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Hi All,
recieved our brief to design a new school of architecture for ourselves here in UCD.
Does anyone have any good precedents?

Thanks,

Conor
 
hugo_irl, January 29, 2007 7:04:58 PM CET
Dublin School of Architecture at Bolton Street DIT.

So glad I got in on this one first.

ronan_mc, January 30, 2007 12:24:35 AM CET
a school of architecture, not a creche

sennahoj, January 30, 2007 12:58:40 AM CET
be a little bit polite please..
Crèche, however educated that word might seem,
is a bit harsh.
Kindergarten comes to mind though :D

hugo_irl, January 30, 2007 8:46:57 AM CET
It is a school ... a remand school.

duncan, February 8, 2007 10:03:04 PM CET
hhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmm this thread has sparked off a lot of ideas that might lead to some interesting things

1 - arkchitecture school has to have a link to the school of urbanism, 1 in the other or vice versa or just linked as you wish

2 - urban school has to be in the guts of the city (1)

3 - seeing as UCD is not in the guts of the city, that means a mobile system could be created, theoretically (2)

4 - then the idea came of why dont we actually make it, seeing as you have been invovled with real mobile units before.

like friends are already doing (3)
thats what im working on now here in barcelona. thanks to all for getting some ideas flowing, thats what "communication systems" like this should prompt.

(1) : placing urbanism schools in the cities guts + response to ronan
easa.antville.org

(2) : conor.... mobile urban school M.U.S
easa.antville.org

(3) :
 
sennahoj, January 29, 2007 8:20:36 PM CET
www.bauhaus-dessau.de

;D
 
carla smyth uk, January 29, 2007 8:28:26 PM CET
Siza'a faculty in Porto. It's pretty nice.
 
hugo_irl, January 31, 2007 9:00:01 AM CET
It's important to remember that over the last 10-15 years a huge amount has changed in the way that students work: architecture schools were once all about drawing, and thus required gallery-esque levels of natural light, as well as a degree of precision regarding how this light was obtained/screened/diffused etc.

These sort of requirements must - in my opinion - be considered a luxury. It's very interesting to look at the conditions and offices that leading practices work out of and then compare them to modern/urban gallery spaces. I dunno ... maybe it isn't interesting.

Siza's faculty is much better in real life than in photographs. It's always good to say that about a building/scheme.

conor, February 1, 2007 1:10:05 PM CET
I agree with you Hugo, I am analysing Google's offices at the moment, aka the Googleplex. As you may well know their Europe and Africa HQ is here in Barrow street in Dublin, employing 1200 people. They never build any of their offices, the day of a need for landmark offices is over. They lease all their building all over the world, usually empty warehouses, office blocks and fit them out Google style. They organize space according to levels of interaction ranging from hot(pool table, cafeteria, etc) to cold(programmers tents). The space of course is well lit and spacious, but these are not made features, its just there. What is interesting is the configuration and programme for the space.

It seems like a nice workspace and possibly a model for my design.. i'm sick of erasmus students yapping at my back

alper_tr, February 7, 2007 11:43:54 AM CET
look i found google HQ in Turkey :P


 
duncan, January 31, 2007 8:19:10 PM CET
like the pirate university here:
www.universitatpirata.org

with critical thinking, leading to critical living, leading to critical action: toward a truly democratic participative architectural society....

can it be done?
are we trying to imagine it?

some are.

id advise listening to the audio from metavilla:
easa.antville.org
moments d´architecture : audios from a week with lucien kroll.
easa.antville.org
(imc-radio is down presently but will be back soon)

the old story: should/could these "schools" be the most exciting nodes in cities?
related to that : the 6 questions

Six Simple and Hard Questions About What Architects Do Today and Where Their Profession Might Go Tomorrow: And Your View Is ....
easa.antville.org
 
hugo_irl, January 31, 2007 9:07:32 PM CET
The problem with the school being an open system is one of discipline. With many people coming from different backgrounds/areas (even in the old Bolton Street) there can be the tendency to basically fuck around and enjoy yourself too much at the expense of your work/education.

It's not a popular thing to say, but discipline and time-related issues - deadlines/time management/time-keeping are vital in schools.

You can also argue that for a school to be successful it should be a long-term establishment; even if the teachers (in all senses) change, even if the ethos changes, there should be some degree of continuity.

I'm not saying that school can't be fun, that it can't be open to widespread participation, but in my opinion it should primarily be a place of teaching (being taught principles - how unfashionable), study (looking at the work of others, your classmates, journals/fieldtrips) and learning through production of your own work.

jim hayton, February 1, 2007 2:43:29 PM CET
From personal experience, going from a UK architecture school (Edinburgh College of Art) to a Danish one (CPH) proved tricky because of the lack of deadlines/ rigidity of teaching etc. such things one takes for granted (and rebels against!) in the UK - but then again us English folk like rules/ law & order and lets not forget queuing >>

jovan, February 2, 2007 5:02:42 AM CET
I envy you Jim, if you've rebelled against anything in Edinburgh. In my 5 years in Plymouth, I haven't seen any rebelling at all.

jovan.uk


p.s. re: queuing, i read recently an interesting study/survey how much Brits are peeved off with it [just not doing anything about it while doing it]

jim hayton, February 2, 2007 3:20:49 PM CET
perhaps more yelling than rebelling in Plymouth.. all those janners.
Have you moved to LDN yet?!

Re: queuing - the study of which seems very important in computer programming & systems management whose real life manifestations can be seen in call centres - where most Irish folk work! ;-) which are ironically the open plan/ open system(?) environments previously highlighted on this thread.

A result of the aforementioned techno-queing which irritates lots of British people is when you receive a phone call (on a landline) then when you pick up the receiver the line goes dead because the call has been made by a computer and the over worked call centre operators are too busy to handle your call. The logic being that it's better to inconvenience the general public then have call centre workers not 100% busy.
Does this happen in other EU countries?

jovan, February 2, 2007 10:11:39 PM CET
nah, i'm working in the office in the border-country, in Hereford ...

although doing my Part 1 course with Westminster Uni, so in London relatively often.

i think it's better not to start about Brits and call centres. :)
 
duncan, January 31, 2007 9:31:28 PM CET
my experience of open systems and discipline is that those that are thoroughly "into" whatever it is they are participating in (ark school, drama workshop, making a community garden, making a film, doing a political action, organising a party or picnic, participating in an EASA summerschool.....etc) are normally quite "disciplined" in a choatic way. As a self organising system, the "group" come together and discuss, work, evolve as best they can give within whatever parameters or limits they have (deadlines, threats, limited resources..) they set their own limits or goals and do their best to meet them. I find that the ones who arent "into" this normally fart around / "basically fuck around and enjoy yourself too much at the expense of your work/education." with the negative spin on the overall project. In many opensystems ive worked at it is normally brought to that individual/groups attention that their methods are affecting the overall group or project: a helpful pointer outer/hint and that from that if they dont try to sort it out and improve they are asked to leave the project. simple.

if a "school" (in the traditional sense that you and i and most on this site have had the experience in) had a more "open" side to it where it was a space/system for others to appraoch with ideas, projects, materials, resourses, funds (if necessary) then i believe that more people would be "into" it as there would be a higher amount of "real" projects as opposed to purely theoretical ones that have little or no understanding or bearing on reality.

for example: this day last week we made a radio programme between Barcelona, Naorobi and Dublin. from that connections were made and it turns out theres a fine computer suite down in the womens centre in sheriff st. what if live projects were to explore the digital network side of ark with that community: leading to dialogue, mutual understanding and perhaps a whole load of ideas from all sides of things that could be done, some of these could lead to real ark project... as only 1 example.

re
"for a school to be successful it should be a long-term establishment" : most schools already are.
but what is the QUALITY of the atmosphere in say the "dublin school of architecture (recently rebranded)" : can things be improved: yes of course.
my experience in DIT was that there was a very unhealthy attitude to "architecture", ok there were some good designers, but was there a passionate exploration into what the hell ark is about? : for me : NO

and thats from both staff and students:
my overall feeling is that both didnt care too much about it, granted there were exceptions, but generally speaking it was a miserable place to learn, explore, play with architecture

not sure if this helps
just my 2 cents

as for myself, a long time frustrated with my own "architectural education" i left it to do things that i thought would "teach" me: site work, travel, political activity, artistic actions.....etc

i hinted at this in the 6 ques above

anyway, nice to hear from you hugo, not sure where you are
im in la quimera, here in the gracia barrrio in barcelona. amazing place, amazing people: ALIVE

another example of what open ark systems can lead to:

reading this excellent book that i got up in can mesdau
www.canmasdeu.net

Belltown Paradise / Making Their Own Plans
www.press.uchicago.edu

i added that on a thread about one of the dublin community garden collectives:
easa.antville.org
the dolphins barn crew:
www.dolphinsbarngarden.org

and one last thing: about the physical form of the shocol:
with an open system the internal processs are whats important, they define the spaces, and if open those forms can move out, in, up, down, into digital realm, to other places in a physical network..... as the real world proecess dictate, the form morphs: bits get built on (as happens in many schools, including the dit smoking shack)
a step up from little drawings and models....


ie: the idea that the city centre is the ark "school" and that networks of groups who meet, organise events, do projects etc that can move determine where are the nodes of the school. "official" students and teachers and a lot more



slainte

dunk
 
hugo_irl, February 1, 2007 7:49:49 AM CET
I agree with you on a few points there Dunk, but I actually still have a lot of faith in traditional pedagogical schooling.

I agree that DIT could easily be improved (every school could be improved, but Bolton Street has quite a lot wrong with it); there's quite a bit of complacency at the top, nice guys in my opinion but not leading the school in any direction whatsoever.

I think one of the things that you're right about (to get back to Conor's topic) is the physical form of the school. The only thing that a studio is needed for nowadays is actually meeting your tutors for crits/reviews. The fifth year studio is DIT's best equipped studio, but all the computers are shit compared to what people have at home, and you can get way more work done without the distractions of having all your mates around. As a result, that studio is pretty empty.

I always enjoyed studio life, the banter and the jokes and the feeling of a home from home, but is it a viable option anymore? Surely economically it would make more sense to just have a well equipped room - internet access, fast computers and foam cutter - rather than a purpose built studio.

In this scenario, you certainly lose out on the element of learning from your classmates, but it certainly would help to balance the books ... just playing devil's advocat here.
 
jim hayton, February 1, 2007 3:12:19 PM CET
.. taking your last point to it's logical conclusion Hugo, it therefore becomes possible to have a "Virtual University of Architecture' where everyone 'logs-in' interacts through blog, video, skype, radio (the latter as Dunc has recently experienced) and as this weblog already sometimes comes very close to eg. when someone asks felllow EASAians to suggest a book, building, architect, study trip tour.

For instance frameworks could be borrowed from the academic system such as semesters, reading lists, presentation deadlines
Can operate during real life school time and/or school holidays.

At specific times individuals give 'presentations' focusing everyone, who's on the website, attention to a specific topic / subject.

This would be very free - open access- but inturn would create the need for Virtual caretakers to avoid 'students' disruptive to the overall project group (as previously covered by Dunc).

In turn the EASA summer school maintains and stregthens its position as the actual real contact time between us 'talking heads'.

I believe to a certain degree we are already students.

And so one could conclude (Re: Conor's post) that redesigning architecture schools is like redesigning museums - which are also great places to visit on a weekend but very quiet during the week!

Best Regards,
Jim

duncan, February 1, 2007 7:41:42 PM CET
from mere physical places to get books to online nodes that support the physical node that the library of today offers: get stuff, put up or read notices, watch free films, access net, learn courses, meet people, language exchange, place to just sit and relax and be warm (especially if homeless or on the periphery of society), a place that stuff grows from.
They are interesting due to the fact that they are open and free, what if the "ark schol" was to open its doors a bit more.....?

from schools, to exhibitions/bienalles, to lectures and films, to actual real world stuff. A lot of it actually going on here in barcelona, ill be back with a bit more on that

theres a good essay in here im trying to find about libraries
www.themetropolitancomplex.com

conor, February 2, 2007 5:20:11 PM CET
"OpenCourseWare expresses in an immediate and far-reaching way MIT's goal of advancing education around the world. Through MIT OCW, educators and students everywhere can benefit from the academic activities of our faculty and join a global learning community in which knowledge and ideas are shared openly and freely for the benefit of all."
- Susan Hockfield, President of MIT


ocw.mit.edu

Here is where the social aspect comes to play, you see, the geeks at MIT need each other, its like colliding atoms, nothing new is created until paths collide, bounce or whatever
 
bori.si, February 1, 2007 7:46:59 PM CET
First, some actual useful info - I'd look at Cooper Union / Architecture department in New York (http://archweb.cooper.edu/). We were there on a study trip, it's kinda funky, a cross between an old-school drawing "factory", a machine shop, and an art studio. Messy but cool. They have to do 1:1 models of details in real materials for their diploma :O

As far as studio work goes... i've been working almost exclusively at uni for the last year and a half.
Here, as laptops become more and more attainable, we are going back to old-school studio work - working at uni when not in classes, and teachers dropping by to give small corrections when they have time.

It comes from having no gear at uni at all, so we all have to buy our own computers - and we buy laptops and bring them to uni. My productivity is actually higher, 'cause there's more peer pressure to get things done when working in teams, and it's great fun too.

Don't really have a point though... perhaps that studio-style work is still viable and, in my opinion, a good thing. It's a mock-up arch. office, so to speak.

cheers,
b.
 
hugo_irl, February 1, 2007 8:14:50 PM CET
I agree completely with Boris. I was in Cooper Union back in 2004, and the end of year show was really interesting: stuff from 3rd year looked like it was unbelievably professional, with stunning renders and details (well I thought they were pretty great), while the fifth year stuff was initially a little disconcerting, as it seemed so art based.

Looking back, I think that this is an excellent model to pursue, giving youngsters all the tools so that by the time they are within site of producing the definitive work of their architecture education, everything is open to them.

As an addendum, it's gotta be noted that not everywhere can be downtown Manhattan.
 
ronan_mc, February 1, 2007 9:53:04 PM CET
Whilst I agree with most of what is said, I would advise against investing too heavily in idea of an open framework. I think one of the earlier examples of this kind of architecture school is Mies Crown Hall in Illnois. I believe that such flexible space is clearly the way forward for the variety of activites ever-increasing in our architecture schools. But, let us not forget the quiet spaces that we often need to sit down and work at a model/drawing etc... for a few hours (the slave work) and furthermore spaces for reflection, much like the monk cells in La Tourette. Think of acoustics, light and the possibilties for distraction.

In short; It requires a balance between an open flexible framework where discussion, cross-fertilisation of ideas and a variety of productive activites can take place; and those spaces (quiet, well-lit etc..) so necessary for germination of an idea and the long slog over an important piece of work.

PS: Conor, you know some of your tutors just will completely go for the development of those spaces I advocate.

duncan, February 1, 2007 10:50:01 PM CET
hi ronan

re "quiet spaces that we often need to sit down and work at a model/drawing etc..."
they are hugely important, and for me they dont end in the school, in the studio but in the wider laboratory: community, city, world

above i added the idea as the city being the uni, for me that was the case, im far happier that i "learned ark" in DIT as opposed to UCD. DIT being a 3 minute walk from the of the city centre, just beside guts of the old ciyt: the markets with early morning trading, early house pubs, dodgy goings on, new multicultural changes (language, faces, foods, life methods etc), stories of the old whoor houses and all that city stuff that ill just put under "urbanism". for me ark schools, if they are intent on any way to deal with urban issues of any scale, have to have a fixed location in the cities guts. years of walking the same streets, observing changes, participating with local things, understanding history, social makeup, etc are essential in the learning of urban systems. of course you will learn theory in a book, film or on a computer screen. but the essence of it is something that develops while digesting all that stuff while in it.... on the streets.

back to your point:
those "quiet" spaces are essential, therefor one of the parameters of the program. to assume that open systems mean mad party full on crazy shit, is not the case. it can be that, at times (remmeber the roofing tales from vertical projects or pimps n hoes...) but the more open system it is and more healthy it is at internal commuincation then the whole system benefits.

mjy point about the city thing was also that, for me these quiet places are hugely important in cities, dublin is lacking, we tried to fix part of that and adress it with the gardens. here in barcelona its amazing to see the spaces and more importantly how they are used

an example, im now living beside the linear street park byh carrer brasil: lovely park, but underneath its a motorway, in other parts the motorway is exposed but in places it was forced under the ground and that was due to a more "participative" planning process whereby the communities organised themselvees (in as best an open system as possible ) and forced the authorities to dig the roads and give a public space to the community... nou barris is perhaps best example

i cant go on, but ark schools could and in my opinion should help in this process.

its time that ark was democratized

the real ark world is too busy to stop and think, its up to you and us to make a space for this critical thinking, experimentation and discussion

ark schools are the natural place it should start.....

have fun with it

one last thing

murals, murals, murals

as well as blank walls

enjoy the creative process

dunk
 
hugo_irl, February 1, 2007 10:41:34 PM CET
Ronan, what you're describing is a traditional studio model. It works, but is it economical in terms of finances and work produced? I could always work better at home. I work harder in an office than I did in studio.

It used to be relevant for studio spaces to be rooflit/northlit etc because it was important for an architect's physical labour, namely drawing at a board. It was a necessity.

This has been abandoned - for better or for worse (paperless office is better for the environment, craft and handwork is neglected through use of computers) - and it's difficult to ask for something just because it's nice to sit there.

Quiet spaces can be provided with headphones. It sounds flippant, but it's absolutely true. I've sat in a studio with fifteen other people at midnight and nobody said a word to each other for 30+ mins. That doesn't sound a lot, but considering that everyone knew each other and we were all in a shared situation, it's pretty impressive. Or the opposite to impressive.

Basically, studios used to have certain technical requirements - good light, space for large drawing boards, rolls of paper etc. Now studios have different technical requirements. Low glare, well-ventilated, highly computer-served.

Studios aren't the be-all and end-all for an architecture faculty, but they are without a doubt the most important and the most used element of same. It's a debate worth having with your tutors. To be honest, I can't see them agreeing with you, but they'll be hard pushed to fault the logic.

To make a point at your first crit you should just get a floor plan of the Compaq building near you, highlight an office, see if you can get the M+E drawings and whatever technical specs you can find, and throw in three pictures: a big fuck-you computer, a foam cutter and a book and say that this is all you need.

Another interesting approach could be to look at the various offices of deadly practices - OMA, Steven Holl, Mansilla Tunon, Caruso St John, Xaveer de Geyter, Herzog de Meuron, FOA* etc - and see how they compare with idealised studios of the past like FLW's Taliesin West, Bauhaus, Aalto's home/office, Balkrishna Doshi's Sangath, Mies in Illinois. The latter are far more "archetypal" studios, while the former are real/realistic and economical.

* There are always pictures in el croquis and other journals [especially vanity publications] of offices.

That's really long. Sorry.
 
das-horst, February 2, 2007 12:17:15 AM CET
coming from delft, big school, small building so you are forced to either work at home or rent a studio space somewhere. PLUS closes at night and in the weekends

and then

going to sci-arc, open 24/7, everybody has his/hers own place,

i must say it was quite an experience. i had my desk in what was called the 'thesis-pit', meaning cubicles basically. so you had your own desk and could work in silence etc.

missing there is other people talking and chatting etc. that is why in the final week i moved desk to the studio of some friends, 15 people in one room, and really working 24/7. i slept on the couch for 5 nights in a row, go home to shower every other day and had an average of 3 hours of sleep that week. everybody would keep each other awake, at 3 at night we'd have some beers and then continue working.

i guess it depends on personal preferences and experiences. i am somebody that needs other people around, but if you are working on your thesis (a one-person job) i can imagine you want your own place.

and it was both paperless and extremely messy.

my 2 dimes.
 
ronan_mc, February 2, 2007 3:44:27 PM CET
Sorry to bust anyone's bubble here, but we live in a free market and the premise of a 'school' is that it provides all those spaces necessary for learning. To expect everyone to have an environment at home conducive to study and project development is downright ridiculous (especially in an overpriced city like Dublin). This is something I feel very strongly about, as it can discriminate between students in terms of class, geography, cultural background.

Hugo, what I'm trying to say is that whilst some students come from Dublin and have a certain comfort zone to go home to, others are from the opposite ends of the country and sleep in crummy cramped basement apartments.
 
hugo_irl, February 2, 2007 5:16:47 PM CET
Not at all. I was trying to make the point that I was better able to work completely on my own than surrounded by other people/distractions.

Like Marten, I enjoy having other people around at certain times in studio but at a certain stage of the project find I'm able to work more effectively at a project on my own with no distractions.

I also don't see your point explicitly about what living in a "free market" has to do with educational facilities: if anything a free market education would cater - as the rest of the free market does - to those who could afford to pay more, such as the American system where colleges are essentially wholly private institutions subsidised by students paying extremely high fees.

I wasn't trying to suggest that everyone should work from home, my point was more that , given a laptop, for all extents and purposes a library (for work) with attached coffee shop (for discussion/critiques) could be as viable a workspace as a purpose built studio. These facilties already exist in all education establishments.

I fully appreciate that it is difficult for students living in substandard accommodation (and at the moment almost all of the student accommodation in Dublin is either substandard or overpriced) and I have much respect for those who are able to overcome this disadvantage. As I said before, I was referring more to solitary working conditions.

As I said before, this is just one (logical) side of an argument, and not one that I necessarily would take. Everybody wants to work in an ideal space, but why do architects deserve it any more than office workers? Also, the ideal spaces for current architectural practice are by no means identical to what the ideal spaces were for archtiectural practice/education in the past.

Oh, and you can lay off on the class warfare bullshit ;)
 
conor, February 2, 2007 6:18:37 PM CET
Hugo I like your logic, its a good arguement - throw into the mix an Ireland in an economic depression in 10 year and the government curtailing free education. What then? Nice spaces are luxury, luxury = expense. Using NCAD's move to Thomas street in the 80's as an example. The space was required but purpose built space was economiaclly unviable. Contemplation spaces go out the window but nevertheless, always seem to be created by the students when there is a need - creating identity can be done without architecture. In the future, if we can get free education by providing a basic framework that uses information technology to network students in the college, fuck it, i'm taking it, we'll make our own fun.
 
ronan_mc, February 2, 2007 11:33:31 PM CET
Yeah, maybe I phrased that wrong, what I meant by a free market is that the infrastructure is provided and maintained to allow an open playing field
 
hugo_irl, February 3, 2007 9:14:28 AM CET
Getcha. Point taken.
 
schrott, February 5, 2007 9:48:34 AM CET
as you are all future organisers and students of architecture at the same time, just a few sentences our fatherly dean mentioned before he granted us a security amount of 55'000 euros after speaking to us for five minutes:

"you know, i don't even want to know the theme of your event. i'm sitting here, looking at you guys, and i believe i can trust you. what do you think, why are people flying to london for a business meeting nowadays? we do have phone, e-mail, chat, video conference and whatever else, but finally you want to have met the person you agree with on something ........"

as simply as he may have put it, i basically agree with him on the fact that the personal contact adds an abolutely necessary layer to any collaboration, and especially for education and actually architecture in general (as opposed to many of the activities taking place in open-plan offices...), the learning effects through working together are too strong to do without studios. just to be clear about that.

contemplation can still happen at home :-) personally, i don't manage to work continuously if there is no working environment or immense pressure. if i had prepared easa alone at home, it would have become a desaster...

cheers
flo
 
schrott, February 5, 2007 9:54:57 AM CET
(@jim)

shouldn't we actually try to get our website somewhere into that direction?

informally starting to collect stuff as you mentioned, semester topics, some of the outcome in rough presentations, reading lists, etc.?

starting with a few new topics that might become strong enough to become separately mentioned links on this blog and on any future website concept that might be in preparation? the easa archive as an archive of european architectural education offering an overview onto years of work?

sounds like a great aim for me...

cheers
flo_ch

p.s. literature and projects do exist as topics, but are not that much in use. could it be stressed in meetings at least for nc's to add their stuff, or anything similar? could it be a part of the archive workshop in greece to try and get into that direction? should we just give a fuck about it?

jim hayton, February 5, 2007 3:25:04 PM CET
I concur with your University Dean's musing and your own thoughts above.

When applied to EASA, I see our great strength being the initial face :-) to face (-: summer meetings which are then to a greater or lesser extend followed up by virtual, distant communications (eg this weblog) conversely I believe that in the wider techno-society we are moving quickly into an age where people are meeting 'friends' on web forums (Myspace, Facebook, WAYN etc etc. with the (potential) aim to then meet in person.

On this weblog people geuinely say "we are you friends"

I prefer EASA!

Re: academic framework, archive workshop in Greece, website i will reply shortly, lots of work to do as we've a hand-in tomorrow!

bye for now...
 
das-horst, February 5, 2007 10:41:47 AM CET
would the easa-site then also really function as an online archive for student work? you could almost wonder if everything with the archive works out, and that the easa community would get more engaged with educational matters (like the discussion about the new dublin school of architecture) they would also offer an informational platform about architecture educations all around the world? e.g. show projects, stories, useful links to study/country-related matters?

what if, in the future i want to study abroad, but to find out where, i would not ask my study abroad advisor or the foreign universities' websites, but rather go to the easa-site and browse through all the different descriptions, impressions and work-examples of all the european architecture schools?

sounds promising?

schrott, February 5, 2007 7:21:20 PM CET
 
ronan_mc, February 5, 2007 12:05:44 PM CET
Just to get a flavour, why not start a thread and get everyone to post one item of work on it. I'm even a bit sheepish at this, kinda scared to put up an image of my work in case of ridicule :-) But what do people think?

schrott, February 5, 2007 7:22:07 PM CET
start with your favourite project then! we have already published them for hungary anyway, haven't we?
 
duncan, February 5, 2007 2:41:22 PM CET
where to place architecture/ urbanism (/art )schools?

The placement of the school is critical : where is it to be? the unURBAN bubble or in the cities guts:

In a bubble or island (a walled, gated, security controlled zone in suburbia=city zone without much soul) like UCD where urbanism is read from books, or in the cities guts, above was my view on why it (well the urban faculty anyway) has to be in the guts. Last year there was plans to move NCAD (dublin art school) out of another part of the Dublins guts and into the bubble of UCD, there was huge protest against this move and i think the actions by students, tutors, supporters, politicals, inner city community activists and many more succeded in keeping it in the cities guts- lets hope it stays there:

Their school is in Dublin 8 : the bin of the city, where all drug problems, social housing nightmares get or got thrown :: weaver court, dolphins barn, teresas gardens, donore avenue etc........
our community garden space was just around the corner and the new one will be there too.

Rather than seeing these so called "dodgy" zones as negative and unsafe areas to work in, wander through or live in as many people do, you can see them as places offering huge potential for what i (rightly or wrongly? ) term "real" architecture or art: seeing the problems, plugging into the proces that seeks to change or fix the problem, connecting with the existing network; community activists, neighbourhood community, the old grannies, the kids with fuck all to do....etc, and CREATING... its amazing how much can be done for so little money, tools, or other resourses. Communities pool togheter, make stuff, share, struggle if need be. that for me is what being a citizen is about, its what architecture should be about, its what art can be about.

EASA 2004 in Roubaix, Lille was a great example of an attempt to work in such a place. I remember the excitement of hearing about it when at the INCM in bornholme (a lovely little Danish baltic island where we built a straw bale little house for kindergarten kids... you remember the blood flo?) Jerome, proposed the idea to myself and Jost as we sat on a window sill having a beer. my immediate response was "yes EASA is getting "realer": going back to the city, communities, neighbourhood.... the place we should be trying to work with". Some engaged with the Roubaix and its community, but overall I felt the EASA community did not wish to work with and in a "difficult" zone, so little actually happened outside. There were some projects but overall not much and from talking with EASA, EXYZT and other people I think that we, EASA, failed in la Condition Publiques wish to bring a bit of magic to the world outside the gate of LA CP. Perhaps this is an unfair criticism, but it is my interpretation and that is why since those days I have drifted further to the world of the others, and that is why I now live and work in Barcelona, in its guts.

background stories to accompany this post:

Dublin:

N.C.A.D. Students Say F.U.C.D.
www.indymedia.ie

NCAD Students Oppose Move to UCD
ireland.indymedia.org

example of where art, architecture, politics, life, social struggle converge:

The Sale of the Century continues in Dublin 8...
www.indymedia.ie

and then all that and ecology, gardening, skill sharing and making new friends

Bringing Nature to Man's Domain
72.232.163.18

Roubaix, Lille, EASA 2004,

Dehors: outside
some work outside the gates of LA CP: in Roubaix´s guts

le petit cinema
easa.antville.org

le petit cinema @ condition publique
easa.antville.org

the roubaix tapestry
easa.antville.org

Roubaix bar
easa.antville.org



pre EASA 2004 discussion in lead up

"EASA will be a political experience" says monsieur albatros"
easa.antville.org

post EASA 2004 discussion

"is the fire burning out?" - duncan, Wednesday, 5. January 2005
easa.antville.org

Onboard the (French) pirate ship METAVILLA (whats being pointed at in Venice this year?)
easa.antville.org

In sincere and thoughtful response to my fellow EASAians
easa.antville.org

EASA PROPOSAL:______________________________________

would ye be interested in trying to make a radio forum about this: we all virtualy meet up, chat, show pictures, basically extent this excellent discussion.
thanks to all for getting the ball rolling

__________________________________________________________


ronans idea:
nice idea ronan, you proposed it, will you get the ball rolling.

a long time ago, alex_b proposed a project per week, just of a piece of ark someone liked and why...

a project per week [appw]
easa.antville.org

And the yaer i did my thesis, which was an exploration into the different systems of and about Dublins guts; Sheriff street, i used the blog to inform EASA and others about the project development and also as a space for others to give me prompts or assistance or criticism for the project. Some of those were very helpful:

CATALYST @ Botanic Spine - content of architectural thesis 2005
easa.antville.org

and to wrap this up, the thesis has not finished, that was the a stage in a journey. Only last week, we organised a global radio project that partly focused on the housing situation in Sheriff Street presently:
Mary Cummings from the North Wall womens centre (a space where we planted trees with the creche kids and some women back in the early garden days) spoke about life in the community now:
That radio show went out live to the world and will be played on terrestrial radio stations in Barcelona, Dublin and hopefully Kenya
you can listen to it here
netjuke.r23.cc
(there have been 114 downloads of that, perhaps some of them were by other radio networks)

network = a community listening to each others tales of archtiecture and more...
 
duncan, February 5, 2007 3:17:36 PM CET
in response to your original post: you have to design a school of ark in UCD

As you were the one who had the idea to make the Roubaix bar and then with a team did it

As you were part of the group that have made a "traveling exhibition" that i think is wandering around the place

As my above post outlines my view that the "urban" school (a branch of the "architecture" school) should be in cities guts, and as ive outlined my view that UCD´s position is outside Dublins guts.....

why not make a mobile "urban" faculty, a truck or 2, a bar or 2, mobile units which allow for all the tek stuff you, i and others would need to use. This of course is a fine theoretical idea, but then i thought. what if you built the thing; now there would be a fine thesis.
remember the EXYZT lads built a nice little thesis, and look where that lead......

also, one of the guys who did the residentMETA workshop with me in the bienale during the summer is involved with a really interesting group, that make super "real" events in a mobile unit, a little modification, space for a load of books, and maybe a sound system and theres your .....
mobile urban school

that residentMETA was, and im sure still is:
Ewen, cosmonaut: MAKROLAB
really nice guy and a super project

"never mind taking the bus, use the mus.....far more fun, and you end up meeting loads of really interesting peole, and you end up doing really great "real" projects"

links:
www.exyzt.org

residentMETA
www.exyzt.net

MAKROLAB

ellipsetours.free.fr


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