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id like to open a chat about the issue of what is a sustainable city / eco city,

i write this in regard to bosnia`s proposal for the SESAM attempt to do so with banja luka

www.solearth.com
is a link to an essay from a friend of mine who visited curitiba in brazil (i think on behalf of the irish government), which is perhaps the best example of one

what forces makes a city more sustainable



 
ana, Tuesday, 3. December 2002, 14:13
actually i am quite interested in that, because i have a project from city planning and i would like to plan an eco development but i am not quite sure what that is, so i am not very helpful. but perhaps you can help me, if you can suggest a book or a link, a magazine, anything..i would really appreciate it
 
duncan, Wednesday, 4. December 2002, 23:45
fritjof capra is the best author to read i think. his recent book "hidden connections" is what i was quoting from in the lecture i gave in bornholm

www.fritjofcapra.net

the "tao of physics" is what made him well known. its a beautiful book about the paradigm shift that is affecting the western world. in my opinion it is a revolution in perception. ie how we are seeing ourselves and existence with a fresh sense. with that awareness of beign alive comes the question - "what can i do or should i do"

that is why "sustainability" matters, because it affects the quality of your life. all things are interconnected, as the scientists found out when looking into the structure of the atom in the 1920`s ; everything is just made up of energy, that is always changing from one form to another.
buddha told us this 1500 years ago, we are starting to listen now.
moby is now siinging "we are all made of stars"

sustainabilty is more than making a building more energy efficient, its about your attitude to being alive
 
duncan, Monday, 16. December 2002, 20:19
making banja luka an eco city would be a fine project for EASA to undertake

why not get all ark students from europe involved, thats at least a few thousand

ask
martin.quirke@usitmail.com

what makes an eco city
 
duncan, Wednesday, 5. March 2003, 20:40
ECO CITY banja luka

this could be the most exciting project undertaken by architecture as a whole.

a new project for a new time

no one interested?

even feedback from the emails and on this forum from the organizers would be encouraging, why is there no discussion?????

i dont believe ark is dead, is it???
 
jelkkruk, Thursday, 6. March 2003, 21:15
if:

discussion = dead
urbanism = dead
corb = dead
ark = dead

than:

ark = urbanism = discussion
= corb

be more corb
long live architecture!

 
duncan, Monday, 10. March 2003, 10:46
it would be worthwhile if a real discussion formed here, and people discussed real ways of making banja luka an eco city.

ie- setting up action networks to inform and create better recycling systems.
is this architectural? yes
 
jelkkruk, Monday, 10. March 2003, 22:32
corb is really dead
like dead, dead
 
jelkkruk, Monday, 10. March 2003, 22:33
corb is not dead - I saw him talking with Elvis
 
duncan, Wednesday, 12. March 2003, 19:57
its easy to take the piss, its harder to be constructive, its easy not to give a fuck, its harder to do so and to try to do something about it, fuck the cynics. maybe later they will say "why dident i do things then, now its too late"
 
duncan, Thursday, 13. March 2003, 13:38
does anybody know of
curitiba in brazil, the best example of an eco-city?

any links

in my opininion it would have been good for the banje luka team to have been in contact with thsi success story,

i posted about it here nearly 4 months ago, trying to show how useful discussion can be, now i get an email saying they know nothing about it

are we progressive??
 
dbiljana, Thursday, 13. March 2003, 16:46
sesam 03 discussion starts.
what is eco city?how can we create one based on what we have now?
 
duncan, Friday, 14. March 2003, 09:45
making momentum

"eco city project – banja luka" could and indeed should become the most exciting global architectural project, an example of a new direction in a new age. if it gathers sufficient momentum, it will happen. its up to us to make that momentum


the worlds population is moving into the urban, sustainable city living is the problem we as designers must create the solutions for. This project is attempting to face this challenge


Personally i think todays architectural vision is lost, this is exactly the thing architecture and indeed the world needs.
Placing it in the balkans is the most appropriate position for it due to recent wars.

ecotopia (a sustainable living community that sets itself up in the countryside) happened in ireland last summer, hopefully it will happen in banja luka sometime soon, sustainable living can happen out in the woods but we have to make it happen in our urban world

is "sustainabiltiy" a trend in architecture, or something real, if its real then one cant but explore the economic, political systems in this world that are doing so much damage, and with that get involved and do what you can to change things

>FUSPEY-fun-sustainable-peaceful-existence
 
duncan, Saturday, 15. March 2003, 13:34
www.eyfa.org is this years ecotopia in The Carpathian mountains in Ukraine this summer

www.ecotopia2002.org is last years in ireland,

these are the people to talk to and listen to in terms of "sustainability" today; they are living it and trying to spread it, i lived with them last summer for about a week and i learned a lot, i think many "architects" have a lot to learn

my problem, as mentioned before, is that it is great to go out and live in the forest for a few weeks or longer. but there are serious challenges, the most important being that of making urban systems more "sustainable" as so much of the worlds population is moving into the urban

it would be great if ecotopia addressed this, and tried to have an "ecotopia" in banja luka in 2 years.

 
duncan, Monday, 24. March 2003, 15:30
can eco-city team at least add something.

that would be a start toward your ideal

hvala
dunk
 
yellow, Monday, 24. March 2003, 16:36

Is there such a thing as a sustainable city? surely it would be a network of smaller centers in close proximity to each other but acting independantly. Perhaps it would be helpful to take the model of most cities "cultural centers" (god bless temple bar) as a starting point. Could just one building perform this function and what exactly would you put in it? At the moment most sustainability organizations seem to just give out information on where to go next rather than demonstrating anything.

I think the big problem with the concept of sustainability is that it doesn’t appeal to our innate selfishness. Ok it benefits the planet, my children, those cute little dolphins and their funny singing but chicks dig my car. Has anybody any thought on how to make sustainability an everyday social activity? And I don’t mean inviting your friends around to go through your neighbor’s rubbish (although it is a fun way to pass an evening). Just try to imagine your out in the pub one night impressing people with stories of…..?

Incidentally does anyboby know any good references for research into sustainable materials. i would be particularily interested in anything on stone in the Mediterranean.


I leave you with the words of one Agent Smith:

Have you ever stood and stared at it? Marveled at it's beauty? It's genius? Billions of people just living out their lives ..........oblivious.
 
duncan, Friday, 28. March 2003, 12:01
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feristo yello

realising the strangeness of life is the starting point.

personally i believe there is a revolution in perception happening, a paradigm shift in our concsciousness and world view.

with that people are becoming more ecologically aware, and with that acting and living in a more sustainable way

education is the key to this

on the big note- cities, electricity and where it comes from- waste and recycling - informing others all have to be dealt with

world economics and policies have to be looked at, who is producing massive amounts of CO2- who is dumping lots of pollution unresponsibly, ??

the US is at war because it wants more oil- more to burn for its car dependant country, more CO2, more ozone depletion

look at critical mass, look at "reclaim the streets" what cities ahve good public transport systems (including good cycling facilities)- curitiba- copenhagen, amsterdam - oxford


re the structure of eco-cities-yes small self reliant or supporting communities are the way- in those there is a common vision on how it can be an attempt to create it- there is no limit to this though??

do what you can to make the world more sustainable.
it affects your quality of life
 
duncan, Friday, 28. March 2003, 12:16


the amount of energy that comes from the sun to our planet in one hour is enough to power our entire planet for one year

why is this not being harnessed?

oh yes- the rights to develop eco friendly products has been controlled so much by oil companies.

why? becasuse business is business- that would put oil companies out of the job,
so pay off media, government and education systems and no one finds out

oppose this, inform yourself, get active
 
christina hicks, Friday, 28. March 2003, 13:07
Hydrogen as an electricity carrier is a viable and existant alternative energy source and the only emissions are water!!

Wind and wave power are also great alternatives.

But they need investment to bring the production costs down.

Projects like this need to be explored pressure needs to be put on governments and oil companies to invest in our future.

Alas energy is power and if we all had equal access to cheap eco friendly energy where would America's leverage come from
 
christina hicks, Friday, 28. March 2003, 13:24
I know especially considering the current mood with war on Iraq this sounds naieve but...

I am optimistic. Things have gone too far. All we can do now is revolutionise and change. for peace and sustainability. I'm not religious but there must be something in the whole acopolypse notion.

Have we reached that point where we must sink or swim?
I have faith in human nature we are fighters (metaphorically) and the mood is changing, people are beginning to realise we have no option but to be environmentally aware, to opose violence and opression.

If not I hope my firm conviction will persuade others and if I can convince 7 people who in turn convince 7 people won't that encompass the world??
 
christina hicks, Friday, 28. March 2003, 13:29
I have a confession I am not an architect and know very little about it but I'm an environmental scientist and willing to offer my knowledge in that area. I have just realised this is an architecture students assembly (read the small print!)
-sorry
 
paradeiser, Friday, 28. March 2003, 17:55
bush and co already changed the society and people dont notice that.
the 5th march nbc made a voting if they should torture the 3rd al-kaida member they cought to get informations - including sleep-withdrawal and breaking his fingers. a huge majority voted for _yes_!
people start to accept violence. as micheal moore said: thats the lesson - not just for the children of columbine college, but for the whole society - violence is a proper way to solve problems.

on the other hand he divided europe and the whole system like uno...

its a very sad time now. everything changes and gets polarized either to accept violence or to dismiss it...

and polarization is one of the worst things ever. i think.
 
yellow, Friday, 28. March 2003, 21:56
"personally i believe there is a revolution in perception happening, a paradigm shift in our concsciousness and world view."

Personally I believe that people just might be learning from their mistakes. Sustainability is not a new idea it’s just that in the past it was so connected to surviving it didn’t need a term to describe it. Its not really a revolution in perception to understand if you eat all your cake tonight that it won’t be there tomorrow (unless you own the cake shop). Look what happened to those fanatics on Easter island who destroyed all the trees (that gave them their stable diet) on the island to make their monuments. What exactly were they thinking when they cut down the last tree? Our gods will save us? Well Ha Ha !
Christina I’m not sure of my facts (I hated chemistry) on this perhaps you know a little more than I do. Doesn’t it take a large amount of energy to produce Hydrogen? Will this energy come from the traditional sources of fossil fuels? As regards wind power I remember reading an article last year remarking on the progress made by the Danish over the past years. I think that wind power will soon cater for 10% of the total consumption. They’ve even managed to make the turbines quieter. Another little known fact is that about 20% of the CO2 in the sky comes from the production of dear old Portland cement. I think we can do something about this.
Ah well to hell with all this conflict I’m off to play with my cuckoo clocks.


 
duncan, Tuesday, 1. April 2003, 12:20
is anyone aware of ECOTOPIA
www.eyfa.org

it looks like syria are next after iraq, the empire spreads

soon it might/ will be china, then WW3 ?

working for peace is more fun
uk.indymedia.org
 
duncan, Thursday, 3. April 2003, 13:14
below is an example of the kind of festival/ education systems/ gatherings that are needed to help bring about an ideal of an "eco-city"

Convergence Festival 2000
Sustainable Living Festival
May 16th to 25th at Cultivate: Sustainable Living Centre.
Essex Street West, Temple Bar, Dublin

The 4th Annual Convergence Festival brings together a host of ideas and solutions in an attempt to define how to create a culture of sustainability. The Festival will feature conferences, workshops, films, theatre, music and exhibits. This year’s themes include the eco-economy, plant medicines, traditional knowledge, slow food, education for sustainability, natural health, appropriate technology, ecotourism, renewable energy, eco-cities, urban food production, eco-design and community building.

_______________________________
Sustainable Ireland Cooperative
15-19 Essex Street West
Dublin 8
01 6746396

www.sustainable.ie


please check out

 
duncan, Thursday, 24. April 2003, 17:08
this thread is continued at
easa.antville.org

ECO CITY BANJA LUKA

the initial stage of the project is over; 60+ students did a 2 week project the result of which is stage 2;

2 week exhibition in state art gallery of srpski republic,

this is an open system, and an attempt to create more networks, unite existing ones, create dialogue and action between banja luka and the world and vice versa




duncan, Monday, 2. January 2006, 02:53

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