hey guys!

we don't only have war as a TOPIC on our site. now there is a REAL war in our forum, a nice possibility to watch how fast stuff like that can grow and explode. After the first explosion, the different parties try to gather as many people as possible behind their back. By propaganda and shouting around half-true stuff, as loud as possible. Isn't it disconcerting that we are all the fucking same assholes???

Stop your written warfare. Find a solution on the phone, present two clear propositions for a new poll. Then wait for one week (decisions always take time in a democratic organisation). As long as there is no decision made by the "plenum", the status quo from BEFORE the whole thing started (no statement) should be kept.

Jelk: As I'd personally like to have a statement there, I'm very interested in your exact reasons why you don't want it (even more as there is so far an unrepresentative majority in the poll). Marko: Even if I told you that I liked the statement when I was in Vienna: you can't expect everyone to have the same opinion as you have in easa. next time, ask first.

Stop fighting. Stop your war.

Flo

dear friends,

the website is online. it has always been reachable.

i will react on a later time on the behaviour of marko. i see this as a serious issue and also will treat this likewise.

please use the adres www.easa.tk for the easa website, marko's version is showing anti-war propaganda, an issue for which the site is not being maintained

sincerely yours,

jelk kruk dutch NC

just wanted to let everybody know that

jelk put our easa-website DOWN !!!

as he owns the www.easa.tk domain he is the onlyone to manage this address

as you can imagine i'm very disappointed about jelks undemocratic behave. he refuses discussion and sabotages the easa-network. probaply his interpretation of easa-spirit. jelk wrote there is no discussion. refusing a discussion is not my way to handle disagreements, but if you are not willing to listen to other peoples opinions it's your choice jelk.

people who have the power will always use it... just another sad example.

as requested here is the poll about taking position against war or not. i just want to point out that i'm not interrested in saying who is good or bad. war is cruel and kills people.